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Paul, Thanks for the excellent article. I am starting to see the light (although it could just be that I left the kitchen light on :). Elements and attributes are indeed crude and cumbersome to use. Script languages like JavaScript relieves some of the pain but most of the work so far has been on making HTML easier to work with and support for other document models is sadly lacking. I do have great hope for the XML Data Binding specification (see below for link) which does address half of the issues you raised. Concerns I have with XML Data Binding specification are a) it is a Java-only solution, and b) it doesn't exist yet. I also agree that node references would be far easier to work with if they behaved exactly like the referenced objects. But then it is just application of the Proxy design pattern with node identity requirement thrown in. At this point, I see the Grove concept as not something new but very old, practical, and obvious, at least to me, described in abstract ways. Its very strength, general applicability, is probably the very reason why people who understand it feel that it must be described abstractly. I do like the Grove concept and now feel that it will have its day in the Sun (sorry, JavaSoft then). However, I believe the patient must feel the pain, acutely and repeatedly, before the doctor can prescribe the cure. DOM will be used and then abandoned later for something better when the pain becomes too much. Best, Don Park Docuverse References: XML Data Binding specification: http://www.javasoft.com/aboutJava/communityprocess/jsr/jsr_031_xmld.html xml-dev: A list for W3C XML Developers. To post, mailto:xml-dev@i... Archived as: http://www.lists.ic.ac.uk/hypermail/xml-dev/ and on CD-ROM/ISBN 981-02-3594-1 To (un)subscribe, mailto:majordomo@i... the following message; (un)subscribe xml-dev To subscribe to the digests, mailto:majordomo@i... the following message; subscribe xml-dev-digest List coordinator, Henry Rzepa (mailto:rzepa@i...)
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