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Simon St.Laurent wrote: > > At 05:11 PM 8/9/99 -0700, Lisa Rein wrote: > >Simon St.Laurent wrote: > > > >> I've concluded that namespaces itself is a great idea. I've also concluded > >> that integrating it with XML 1.0 in any reliable way is pretty much > >> impossible. > > > >Please explain this statement. > > Sure - piece of cake. I think we've been over these issues a few hundred > times, but no problem. lisa: Oh no, i am NOT trying to relaunch the usual debate about Namespaces or XSL implementations, i thought you meant something specfic, not the usual hypothetical worries... (I really do hope I'm not reminding the list of > some of its more frightening days in any troubling way.) too late, it has reminded and is troubling for me...:-) > > But none of those applications is beginning to stress out namespaces. None > of them are dealing with XML validation in a context where prefixes have > conflicted and needed to be changed to something other than what's in the > DTD, for example. More hypothetical worries? Well whip up an application and test it out if you're losing sleep over it -- what would you do when that dreaded conflict occurs? Figure it out, cross that bridge and all that... simon: > > Particular applications do use namespaces reliably. That doesn't mean that > all possibilities opened by the spec can be used reliably. Not every option all the time every day for everyone, however, under certain circumstances, most of the scenarios are "possible". That's why they are called "possibilities" :-) And in this vein POOF! an option was provided! simon: > > Basically, none of these applications is really doing anything exciting > that couldn't have been done just by focusing on the prefix. > I wasn't saying that they were doing anything exciting, we were debating the "impossibility of integrating namespaces with xml v. 1.0" , and we have now established that it is not impossible to do, because many have done it, and that you were really more un-satisfied with the level of innovation of the namespace-aware implementations to date more than anything else, and are looking forward to the creation of a "killer app? that will test out the limits of the namespace syntax mechanism -- and take it for a real test drive, but in a useful and creative way. We all look forward to that. simon: While > (hopefully) they do check beyond the prefix, none of them has explored the > terra incognita that's out there. "terra incognita" ? is that contagious? Maybe i'll hold off for now on exploring "beyond the prefix" :-) lisa xml-dev: A list for W3C XML Developers. To post, mailto:xml-dev@i... Archived as: http://www.lists.ic.ac.uk/hypermail/xml-dev/ and on CD-ROM/ISBN 981-02-3594-1 To (un)subscribe, mailto:majordomo@i... the following message; (un)subscribe xml-dev To subscribe to the digests, mailto:majordomo@i... the following message; subscribe xml-dev-digest List coordinator, Henry Rzepa (mailto:rzepa@i...)
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