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RE: XSL and the semantic web

• From: Marc.McDonald@D...
• To: david-b@p...
• Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 15:42:26 -0700

I agree there are times for data to be filtered, which is why I mentioned
the elements and attributes that would not be present. With CSS, I admit
they would be there but a system that removed elements that had no style
attributes added is more of what I'm thinking of.

In the case given, you wouldn't know Joe was an employee or that he was
active. All you would know is that his name is joe and his phone number.

When sensitive data needs to be hidden I would send it out subsetted in the
xml:
<name>joe</name>
<phone>555-12345</phone>

His salary, review info, and other sensitive material would not be sent out
at all.

Marc B McDonald
Principal Software Scientist
Design Intelligence, Inc
www.design-intelligence.com <http://www.design-intelligence.com> 


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	From:  David Brownell [SMTP:david-b@p...]
	Sent:  Monday, June 21, 1999 3:35 PM
	To:  Marc McDonald
	Cc:  xml-dev@i...
	Subject:  Re: XSL and the semantic web

	Marc.McDonald@D... wrote:
	> 
	> I think the point was that <H3>Joe</H3> has lost the fact that
	>'Joe' was a name (<name>Joe</name>), and similarly with the
	> phone number.

	I read that just fine.  And as I said, you don't have any kind
	of entitlement or right to such information, so it's no use to
	base any arguments on such an entitlement. 

	For example, there are risks to society in making it too easy
	for people to find out information about other folk.  It makes
	it easy to perform identity theft, invade privacy, etc.  The
	very example (a semantic web search) you used to motivate your
	desire for this representation came across to me as a powerful
	reason to avoid what you're arguing in favor of!


	> Looks to me like grasping at straws to justify FO model.

	... or to attack it!  In fact, I never mentioned FOs, the
	points I was making apply to _any_ element vocabulary used
	to deliver information.  They will be used to filter out data,
	and hide it in less accessible forms, since organizations
	MUST do that.  The more sensitive the data, the more work
	will be (or at least should be!) put into filtering it out
	or hiding it.

	- Dave

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