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At 2:33 PM +0200 4/19/99, Clark, Bruce B wrote: >Hi Group, > >It is humiliating to ask such a basic here, but everything that I have read >presumes more knowledge than I have got. I am learning XML from a book and >trying to get the dreaded "hello world" into my browser. The book says that >I must make a XML document (done that), make a style sheet (done that) and >then convert it to HTML. This is where I am stuck. Why must I do this ? The >book also says that I must ftp a file down called MSXSL.EXE and it will do >the required conversion. I have looked for the file at the recommended site >and it does not exist. I have done a search and can't find it either. > >I obviously have zero knowledge about XML. If anyone can point me in the >direction of a resource, I would be most grateful. And does anybody know >where I can get the MSXSL.EXE from, or is there another alternative ? > > I'll take a wild guess that that's my book. I've been puzzling over what exactly to do about Microsoft's dropping of MSXSL for some time, and I'm afraid I don't have a perfect answer for anyone. Such is life on the bleeding edge that is still XSL. The bottom line is this: the draft XSL specification has changed twice since XML: Extensible Markup Language was first published, once radically, once not quite as radically. In any case, the version of XSL described in my book and partially implemented by MSXSL is no longer recommended. Furthermore, Microsoft has pulled MSXSL from their Web site, and it is no longer available. I tried sending the file to a few people, but none of them seemed able to successfully unzip and install it on their systems. Something in between the last two drafts of XSL is now supported by Internet Explorer 5.0. I'm working with this now, and recommend you do the same. There are also a number of other tools for working with XSL including LotusXSL http://www.alphaWorks.ibm.com/formula/LotusXSL xslj ftp://ftp.cogsci.ed.ac.uk/pub/XSLJ/ Koala XSL Engine http://www.inria.fr/koala/XML/xslProcessor FOP http://www.jtauber.com/fop/ None of these do exactly what MSXSL did, but some come close. I've had relatively good luck with LotusXSL in particular. All four vary in exactly which parts of which working drafts they support. I have not yet worked with the other three heavily myself, so I don't have any strong recommendations. I'd be curious to hear your opinions of them if you try them out. However, you must keep in mind that XSL is still a bleeding edge technology. Anything you do now will be invalidated in six months (if not sooner) so you need to be ready for this. None of the available tools fully support the current working draft, and even that draft is almost certain to change. XSL is slowly beginning to gel, but it will not be complete until Summer 1999 at the earliest (probably later). Obviously an update of the book is called for. I am currently working on a much revised and expanded version which will be published by IDG this summer as The XML Bible. I have repeatedly asked IDG to allow me to post chapters from that book on my Web site with updated information as I write them. So far they have been unresponsive. I have begun posting examples from that book online at http://metalab.unc.edu/xml/books/bible/examples/ The examples from Chapter 5 should be particularly helpful with regard to basic XSL. I wish I had a better answer for you, but as yet I do not. If one arises, I will let you know. +-----------------------+------------------------+-------------------+ | Elliotte Rusty Harold | elharo@m... | Writer/Programmer | +-----------------------+------------------------+-------------------+ | XML: Extensible Markup Language (IDG Books 1998) | | http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0764531999/cafeaulaitA/ | +----------------------------------+---------------------------------+ | Read Cafe au Lait for Java News: http://sunsite.unc.edu/javafaq/ | | Read Cafe con Leche for XML News: http://sunsite.unc.edu/xml/ | +----------------------------------+---------------------------------+ xml-dev: A list for W3C XML Developers. To post, mailto:xml-dev@i... Archived as: http://www.lists.ic.ac.uk/hypermail/xml-dev/ and on CD-ROM/ISBN 981-02-3594-1 To (un)subscribe, mailto:majordomo@i... the following message; (un)subscribe xml-dev To subscribe to the digests, mailto:majordomo@i... the following message; subscribe xml-dev-digest List coordinator, Henry Rzepa (mailto:rzepa@i...)
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