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Chris Lilley wrote: > > MURATA Makoto wrote: > > I strongly agree. This is the best approach. I sincerely hope that such > > an attempt will happen at W3C. > > I have spoken to the Jigsaw team about this, explained the urgency, and > hope to see an implementation in a forthcoming Jigsaw release. They said > it was about an hours work or so. That is great! I think that further discussion in this mailing list about the justification of the default for the charset parameter is not very useful. The discussion should be moved to the ietf-xml-mime mailing list. The current specification is a result of loooooong discussion. Nobody is completely happy with it, but nobody is completely unhappy with it (rememember that application/xml is also available). In their review report of XML, the W3C I18N WG asked the XML CG not to change the precedence rule of the charset parameter. If I create an I-D ignoring this request, I would be ignoring the I18N WG as welll as strong oppositions from HTTP people. Since I intend to move the discussion to the IETF-xml-mime mailing list, I merely state some facts here. > By drawing this > distinction, are you saying that RFC 2376 does not apply to HTTP and > only applies to email? RFC 2376 quite carefully mentions both HTTP and real MIME. > Well, if a US-based group recommends US-ASCII that should not really be > a surprise ;-) However, while US-ASCII is compatible with UTF-8 it is > not the same; and it is not compatible with UTF-16. So, it is a very odd > choice for a default. IETF I18N guideline documents (RFC 2277 and RFC2130) recommend UTF-8 as the default. When the WWW was invented, 8559-1 was the default. US-ASCII is the intersection of the two. Chris Lilley wrote: > > Yes, but I was not referring to Appendix F. I was referring to section > 4.3.3 which is normative: > http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-xml#charencoding > > Parsed entities which are stored in an encoding other than UTF-8 > or UTF-16 must begin with a text declaration containing an encoding > declaration [...] I agree that this is misleading. It only talks about the case that MIME headers are not available (I will send out a request for clarification). Chris Lilley wrote: > > RFC2376 supercedes it, as intended by the XML WG. > > Supercedes Appendix F, or superceeds the whole of the XML > Recommendation? I assume you mean the former. Yes. Makoto Fuji Xerox Information Systems Tel: +81-44-812-7230 Fax: +81-44-812-7231 E-mail: murata@a... xml-dev: A list for W3C XML Developers. To post, mailto:xml-dev@i... Archived as: http://www.lists.ic.ac.uk/hypermail/xml-dev/ and on CD-ROM/ISBN 981-02-3594-1 To (un)subscribe, mailto:majordomo@i... the following message; (un)subscribe xml-dev To subscribe to the digests, mailto:majordomo@i... the following message; subscribe xml-dev-digest List coordinator, Henry Rzepa (mailto:rzepa@i...)
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