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[XML-DEV Mailing List Archive Home] [By Thread] [By Date] [Recent Entries] [Reply To This Message] Re: XML Information Set Requirements, W3C Note 18-February-1999
 At 08:49 AM 2/20/99 -0500, Simon St.Laurent wrote: >The delays in tools >for managing, creating, linking, and presenting XML documents have left XML >without very much to do for documents - presenting unlinked documents in >beta viewers isn't especially exciting, and so far XML hasn't made much of >a dent on its original claim to be 'SGML for the Web'. Some of us have been acutely aware of this issue for quite a while. My recent post on xlxp-dev, which I quote relevant parts of below, was intended as a reminder that some people are still very much at work in this area. A question to ask though, is why haven't we seen more of the tools required to bring SGML to the Web? To answer it, reflect on the parade of "standards" and "specifications" developed over the past 10 years to view or print a document. Let's see: - ISO began work on DSSSL back in the late '80s/early '90s. - DSSSL was taking too long, so the U.S. DoD developed "Formatted Output Specification Instances" (FOSIs), as a "stop gap." - FOSI's are supported by ArborText. But FOSIs are pretty complex, so SoftQuad developed a stylesheet specification of its own when it came out with Panorama. - ISO finally made DSSSL a standard in 1996. - We (Fujitsu) brought out HyBrick, which supports DSSSL (or DSSSL-Online to be more exact), at the end of that same year. - A year later we were being asked, "when are you going to support XSL?" (Answer: When it stops moving and we think we need to.) And how are documents actually distributed? Even by the W3C working groups on XML? In HTML ... sometimes with CSS stylesheets. Any wonder then that we haven't seen more of "SGML/XML on the Web"? Now for a more optimistic note, the following is from my post of last week on xlxp-dev: ************************************************************************** I've put some files with XLink/XPointer declarations in them up on the HyBrick Web site at http://www.fsc.fujitsu.com/hybrick/. These files are intended to be accessed over the Web. In the original announcement of HyBrick V0.80, I down played HyBrick's Web capabilities. That's because this version - the one that's currently available - does not support proxy servers. So file retrieval over the Web using HyBrick is at the moment problematic. If your network access environment allows you to though, you can see XLink and XPointer at work over the Web by downloading HyBrick and pointing it at: http://www.fsc.fujitsu.com/hybrick/hubdoc-1.xml HyBrick doesn't currently have a download progress indicator. If something is happening though, you'll see the status message "Parsing and FOT-Building" in the window frame. To repeat, HyBrick does not currently support proxy servers, so this may not work from your location. Work is now going on to address this issue and to make HyBrick technology more available in general. ***************************************************************************** Best regards, Ralph E. Ferris Fujitsu Software Corporation xml-dev: A list for W3C XML Developers. To post, mailto:xml-dev@i... Archived as: http://www.lists.ic.ac.uk/hypermail/xml-dev/ and on CD-ROM/ISBN 981-02-3594-1 To (un)subscribe, mailto:majordomo@i... the following message; (un)subscribe xml-dev To subscribe to the digests, mailto:majordomo@i... the following message; subscribe xml-dev-digest List coordinator, Henry Rzepa (mailto:rzepa@i...) 
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