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 Matt Sergeant wrote: > Markus Weltin wrote: > > > Is it common to produce XML docs from database quires, > > and then convert them to HTML pages? > > Be careful with this. There's no reason to query a database, output XML > and convert to XML all on the server. Why not? That's an example of using XML as a glue between a database and HTML. > > > One warning I will give to users here is: Don't convert XML to HTML on > the server. Unless performance really isn't important. Or you can > guarantee that most of your browsers will be 5.0 browsers and you only > need to do the conversion for a few users. That's a lesson I learned the > hard way this week. Unfortunately I think a lot of people will make this > mistake since there are becoming more and more tools on the market to do > just this (e.g. IBM's Java servlet XSL converter). > Whoa, careful there. I think you must be talking about dynamically generating HTML from XML via a CGI-like script. This has merit, but there are other scenarios where converting XML to HTML on the server-side is benefitial. For instance, there's no reason why you couldn't pre-generate HTML from XML. This would save processing time on the client and server. Also, there are instances where processing XML dynamically is easier and more efficient. As an example, I recently worked on a project that collects news headlines from internetnews.com and puts them into a compact summary which web sites then use on their site. Since news is generally time sensitive, the summary must be generated regularly. Previously, each client site was querying internetnews.com every 5 minutes or so. Once the page was retrieve (around 30k usually), the script ripped the headlines out of the HTML and generated a news summary which users then included on their homepage. There were several problems with this: 1. at around 30,000 registered sites, they were concerned that resources were being diverted by the potentially 30,000 clients who were querying the page every few minutes. 2. they were embedding non-HTML tags in HTML 3. the embedded tags did not contain enough information to categorize the news The answer was to use XML as a glue between the news Web server and the clients who want to display news headlines on their sites. Instead of each client retrieving the news page every few minutes, the headlines are now gathered, categorized, and XMLified by a separate server. Now the clients download the headlines in a more compact and useful XML format from a different server. The benefits are: 1. significantely reduced bandwith utilization 2. use of resources is diverted away from www.internetnews.com 3. the XML format is easy to understand. it would be easy to convert to another format or to write a separate client. We can pre-generate or dynamically generate the news summaries in HTML, DHTML, and Javascript. XML has been very helpful to make this transition easier and will also allow for a higher level of extensibility in the future. You can see the results at: http://www.webreference.com (left side) There are also some examples at: http://www.webreference.com/headlines/nh/examples You can register to use the news harvester at: http://www.webreference.com/headlines/nh/ There are multiple news categories, here's a few URLs to the resulting XML which is generated every 5 minutes: http://headlines.internet.com/internetnews/top-news/news.xml http://headlines.internet.com/internetnews/bus-news/news.xml Jonathan. xml-dev: A list for W3C XML Developers. To post, mailto:xml-dev@i... Archived as: http://www.lists.ic.ac.uk/hypermail/xml-dev/ and on CD-ROM/ISBN 981-02-3594-1 To (un)subscribe, mailto:majordomo@i... the following message; (un)subscribe xml-dev To subscribe to the digests, mailto:majordomo@i... the following message; subscribe xml-dev-digest List coordinator, Henry Rzepa (mailto:rzepa@i...) 
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