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Re: Storing XML/Streaming HTML

• From: "Frank Boumphrey" <bckman@i...>
• To: "Rob Williams" <rob@r...>, "xml mailing list" <xml-dev@i...>
• Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 13:43:26 -0500

Michael,

you can do what you want to do very simply by using ASP and the new MS
msxml.dll. (sent with the latest IE5Beta)together with the DOM.

just use 'getElementsByTagName' wrap the content in a suitable HTML
wrapper,and send these to the client as an HTML stream.

Frank

Frank Boumphrey

XML and style sheet info at Http://www.hypermedic.com/style/index.htm
Author: - Professional Style Sheets for HTML and XML http://www.wrox.com
CoAuthor: Professional XML applications from Wrox Press, www.wrox.com


----- Original Message -----
From: Rob Williams <rob@r...>
To: <xml-dev@i...>
Sent: Friday, December 04, 1998 11:05 AM
Subject: RE: Storing XML/Streaming HTML


>Michael:
>
>Thanks for the vote of encouragement. As for generating the HTML and
storing
>it in static form I thought about that but then I thought, well most
>accesses to the document are going to be to very particular little pieces,
>i.e., they will see a topic list or search for something and get back a
list
>of sections and then most accesses should just be per topic (which might
>only be a couple of paragraphs). Here's how I saw that happening (and
PLEASE
>feel free to shine a light on this, I am truly an XML newbie):
> 1. I create a TOC and a document map of some sort. (I know I don't
>really need these things in XML since the document structure itself holds
>the document side and when browsers support it they will be able to just
>present the view side.) So what I'm talking about here is being able to say
>read all the chapter tags and present them through a servlet, so the user
>goes to the opening page to our document and gets something that looks like
>this:
>
> Policies and Procedures
> I. Overview
> II. Employment Practices
> III. Compensation and benefits
> A. Benefit Time for Employees
>
>and of course each one would be a URL which would invoke the same servlet
>w/a different parameter. So for instance the URL for Compensation and
>Benefits might be:
> www.acme.com/servlet/pnpmanual?chapter=3
> 2. My servlet would respond by asking for Chapter 3 through the
>parser (as I understand it this is where SAX comes in, right? I am looking
>for an excerpt so a scan of the tags occurs instead of reading in the whole
>document? Well, then again, since this servlet is going to be serving this
>document up to all comers, if it does build the whole thing in memory maybe
>that isn't such a disaster?).
> 3. Anyway, once I get back the text from the node I've requested,
>then I am going to just stream it out using the response stream of the
>servlet to the user. Finally, in thinking about the application of styles,
>maybe what I should do is allow them to goof w/an XSL file on the server
and
>then just apply the style info to the XML before it gets streamed to the
>filter to be translated into HTML?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Rob Williams
>RobCo Incorporated
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Michael Kay [mailto:M.H.Kay@e...]
>Sent: Friday, December 04, 1998 7:44 AM
>To: xml-dev@i...
>Subject: RE: Storing XML/Streaming HTML
>
>
>> I'm helping a company ... make their policies and procedures manual
>> available as an online reference. I am thinking that it makes
>> sense to mark
>> it up as XML: it is 1000 pages and contains lots of chapters and
>> subheadings. Anyway, the question is, have people gone this route yet, of
>> marking up some text in XML and then streaming it to the client
>> (browser) as HTML?
>
>Author it in XML definitely. What I would do with it then, given that this
>is a static manual, is to generate HTML at publication time and store the
>generated HTML on the server in the normal way. That's heresy to many on
>this list, but to my mind it gives the best performance and the least
system
>complexity. Of course if you're planning a fancy interactive experience for
>your readers the answer might be different.
>
>Mike Kay
>
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