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Simon St. Laurent wrote: Cleaning up the top pages of > my site took about 10 minutes. Other pages will require more work - yes, I > plan to go back and fix everything except perhaps the 100+ XSchema fragments. It took me WEEKS just to clean up the (pretty horrid) HTML on my little site -- but now it is at least HTML 4.0 valid. I feel this is an important first step to first get everyone to at least be well-formed HTML, and THEN start pushing for xml transition. The XML transition itself will be more easily accomplished from a web of well-formed HTML anyway. In fact, if I have my dithers, much of it will be automatable. For now, remember that if web documents that are not well formed are near-useless to machines. So it just depends on whether you want the information on your site -- all of it -- to be machine-accessible -- and that's not even getting into real accesibility issues (WAI, ICAAD, etc.)-- many of which also depend on such well-formedness. Many sites that I have been trying to access with xml-enabled apps are dead-ends due to non-well-formed pages. In order to accomplish creating an XML directory, for example, I would like to be able to index at the very least the websites of the members of this list -- but when I tried many were inaccessible ;-( So then I am forced to either "scrape" the data off of your sites, and regenerate versions of it that can be indexed -- which is another pain (shame on you all ;-) -- or keep looking for other well-formed sites -- a frustrating search which usually just leads me back to my own site. Simon's other point (about the need to start migrating ourselves) hits a sore spot with me because I've been getting called on this lately -- It's pretty embarrassing when some one calls you on not practicing what you preach -- especially with what some still view (unfortunately) as the a "religion" of xml. Most HTML programmers can understand the sacredness of well-formed docs (-- although they might not get the value of syntax preservation in general.) I'm not sure why the well-formedness thing gets across, but it does. We can use this to everyone's advantage. So soon I will be releasing my own little indexing system for my own little site (of well-formed HTML, at first, not xml pages -- and then mirrored xml'd versions of those same pages -- but i would love to integrate the content of others -- i've just grown tired of looking for well-formed pages) So if your site has well-formed pages -- and you'd like to be included in a little experiment -- let me know privately. Thanks! lisa xml-dev: A list for W3C XML Developers. To post, mailto:xml-dev@i... Archived as: http://www.lists.ic.ac.uk/hypermail/xml-dev/ To (un)subscribe, mailto:majordomo@i... the following message; (un)subscribe xml-dev To subscribe to the digests, mailto:majordomo@i... the following message; subscribe xml-dev-digest List coordinator, Henry Rzepa (mailto:rzepa@i...)
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